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Date: 2009-01-29 06:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
Eh, I skipped the first question, it's too soon for me to say. Pushed to answer I would probably give him a 4. There are a few things he has put into motion that just have me sick. But I refuse to give up hope on this Country.

Date: 2009-01-29 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
Out of curiosity, and not to start a big debate, but what are those things that have disquieted you?

Date: 2009-01-29 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
I am not happy with the funding of abortions in the states and certainly not internationally. I am not against abortion, but I am not for funding it out of tax payers money either. I think Guantanamo Bay was a mistake. And I think the idea that *illegal* aliens should be allowed to sue for not making equal wages is absurd. Just a few things about him that chap my ass. On the other hand and totally off this subject, I think the new Governor of New York is awesome.

*** forgive my error, I meant Senator Gillibrand.
Edited Date: 2009-01-29 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
I can understand the abortion and Gitmo points. I don't know enough about the illegal aliens issue to agree or disagree. :) I haven't been keeping up with Gillbrand, busy instead with Patrick's battles with the MA congress. What has he done that makes you happy?

*Edited for my too hasty reply. :)
Edited Date: 2009-01-29 06:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
She has been the closest I have felt to identifying with as a politician. I am a registered Republican, but I more identify with being a conservative. But I have liberal opinions as well. So it is never an easy task to find someone that is all of those things or at least most of those things and Gillibrand seems to be my type with some of her middle of the road views. It's nice for a change.
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
[nods] It's good to have a candidate one can identify with. Obama is that candidate for me; liberal, but not wedded to the "liberal agenda." I readily admit that I'm left of center. :)

I like what I read about her, even if some of her stands (on guns and gays, for example) sound dissonant. I don't have the full voting history and context, though. She sounds like she'll make a good replacement for Clinton.
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
Eh, for me he is a bit (a lot) more liberal then I am comfortable with. But I am open to see what can happen as I am with each new election. :o)

From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
I'll totally concede that - he's more liberal than many others are comfortable with. :) Then again, given what he did at the Law Review, I think many conservatives will be surprised and pleased in the long run.

Date: 2009-01-29 07:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] filmnoir6.livejournal.com
You're right, G.: it still is way way early. But he's not doing too bad so far. One hopes Daniel Pearl's killer was not released from Gitmo US custody just because the base is closing; one hopes he was transferred to the US proper to meet his due fate.

Date: 2009-01-29 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
I think that is a whole lot of hoping that should have been a very good reason NOT to close it in the first place.

Date: 2009-01-29 07:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
I think it was a political move instead of a practical one. Closing it is more symbolic for the rest of the world and US citizens worried about the nation's moral conduct. I can see some practical and good reasons for keeping it open, especially in light of extraordinary rendition, but everything it does (aside from torture) can be done just as well in the mainland, and without the political scarlet letter Gitmo has come to represent.

Date: 2009-01-29 07:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
I am going to have to bite my tongue, lip and inside cheek on this one. The words moral conduct almost sent me into a tailspin. ;o)

Date: 2009-01-30 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
Hehehe. :) We could have one enlightening conversation, you and I. But I'll wait until I learn not to send you into fits and tailspins with my choice of words!

Date: 2009-01-30 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
Hahahaha! Political discussions always ruffle a few feathers. No worries. Just think if we were discussing something I am seriously passionate about! Oooof. ;p

Date: 2009-01-30 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] inkmark.livejournal.com
[Sorry for the delay in replying, btw - I had a few events to attend in between then and now.]

Date: 2009-01-30 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gillian16.livejournal.com
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